tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post2276255033147531715..comments2024-02-22T14:58:42.569-06:00Comments on Renaissance Astrology: "Traditional Astrology"?Christopher Warnock, Esqhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-63183959323106938512013-06-27T18:39:22.447-05:002013-06-27T18:39:22.447-05:00Bruce's taxonomy looks very useful.
Could one...Bruce's taxonomy looks very useful.<br /><br />Could one then add:<br /><br />II. Eastern Astrology<br />A. Chinese<br />etc.<br /><br />III. Amerind Astronomy<br />A. Mayan<br />B. Aztec<br />etc.<br /><br />and so on..Lance M. Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17404310713482611952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-90216119603466395452013-04-19T08:07:46.594-05:002013-04-19T08:07:46.594-05:00Just want to say I like Bruce's pile of catego...Just want to say I like Bruce's pile of categories too. And, yes, let a hundred flowers bloom! :)David Cochranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12528817662285880931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-62993962622177397802013-04-18T13:06:48.711-05:002013-04-18T13:06:48.711-05:00Exactly! Now if for some reason Tex-Mex becomes p...Exactly! Now if for some reason Tex-Mex becomes prestigious and a burger chef starts claiming that burgers should be classified as Tex-Mex, therefore he is a Tex-Mex chef, then the point of the label is lost.Christopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-24760229087704329662013-04-18T12:18:36.928-05:002013-04-18T12:18:36.928-05:00Yes, I see your point. If I'm going to a rest...Yes, I see your point. If I'm going to a restaurant, I certainly want to know what kind of cuisine the chef is offering. Most of the people I run into who want readings have no idea of the differences between any of the 'types', however, and they don't really want to know. They just want a reading. The more sophisticated or educated client would indeed want to know where one was coming from. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918442095826307990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-85568595260549247192013-04-18T10:20:13.481-05:002013-04-18T10:20:13.481-05:00Ultimately everyone gets to decide for themselves ...Ultimately everyone gets to decide for themselves how they want to label things, including their astrological practice. However, it becomes confusing if one's label seems out of whack with one's actual practice. I am free to call myself a Japanese astrologer, but since I am of American nationality, WASP/Greek descent, living in the US and don't speak or read Japanese, one wonders how accurate this self labeling is. Everyone else is free to disagree with our self labeling as well! <br /><br />My problem with the term "astrologer" by itself is that this ignores the fact that there are very different schools of astrology. What do you like to eat? "Food", doesn't give us much help in deciding what restaurant to go to. Christopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-11700646737437116232013-04-18T10:11:14.858-05:002013-04-18T10:11:14.858-05:00Thank you for summing it up so nicely! I understa...Thank you for summing it up so nicely! I understand it all so much better now. Even though I consider myself a traditional astrologer, I use a whole whack of different techniques. Everyone does really, so I think just using the 2 divisions is the least confusing. Or, better yet, why not just call oneself an 'astrologer', and leave it at that. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918442095826307990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-59625358930922207912013-04-18T09:48:09.543-05:002013-04-18T09:48:09.543-05:00You know I like this categorization! I do fall int...You know I like this categorization! I do fall into the trap of making value judgments about various types of astrology with my own area best of course, but really what categorization should accomplish is a way to understand and accurately label different areas. But again, there's no need to impose an orthodoxy here, everyone can do their own thing! Christopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-17221749987687689202013-04-18T09:44:36.213-05:002013-04-18T09:44:36.213-05:00I can't resist making a pile of categories.
I...I can't resist making a pile of categories.<br /><br />I. Western Astrology (natural and judicial)<br /> A. Ancient<br /> 1. Mesopotamian<br /> 2. Hellenistic<br /> B. Traditional<br /> 1. Medieval<br /> 2. Renaissance<br /> C. Modern<br /> 1. Psychological/Theosophical<br /> 2. Symmetrical (Witte)<br /> 3. Harmonic<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057198407186834396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-63990080523457229622013-04-18T09:00:27.241-05:002013-04-18T09:00:27.241-05:00Hmmm...to a traditional astrologer, this sure soun...Hmmm...to a traditional astrologer, this sure sounds modern, but the wonderful thing is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion! Let a hundred flowers bloom!Christopher Warnock, Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094986897516229481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-208717552072971880.post-12698339662515303362013-04-18T08:44:30.496-05:002013-04-18T08:44:30.496-05:00Christopher, thank you for this excellent paper. I...Christopher, thank you for this excellent paper. I have a suggested modification to your categorizations of astrological systems.<br /><br />You wrote that "there really are only 2 kinds of astrologers, traditional and modern. Modern astrology is built on a buffet style, grab bag approach." I suggest that you divide modern astrology into 2 kinds: psychological and harmonic. "Harmonic" astrology in this context includes systems like cosmobiology which are based on a simple celestial geometry and very few underlying principles. The harmonic systems have very a very clear theoretical framework and are similar to the modern sciences in that they are models based on very few underlying principles. There are a sufficient number of cosmobiologists, harmonic astrologers, etc. to include this as a significant astrological movement, and it is radically different from both the modern psychological and traditional systems. Research using harmonic astrology has produced results which have gone further than traditional and psychological astrology in obtaining replicable measurable results in both natal and predictive astrology (e.g. reseach by Theodor Landscheidt, John Nelson, myself, etc.) Regardless of whether one finds the modern harmonic astrological model attractive or valid, ignoring it as an important and distinct astrological system results in a categorization of astrological systems incomplete. I can provide links to papers and videos which receive a very large number of views and thus indicate that harmonic astrology is an important and relatively distinct astrological model.<br /><br />Again, thank you for your excellent paper and many contributions to astrology. I have my point clear and as you have wisely counseled, I will not continue to argue. :) I hope that my suggestion is helpful.<br /><br />David CochraneDavid Cochranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12528817662285880931noreply@blogger.com